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JohnC4X4 Cat Prices on the way down?... 10-02-2014, 09:39 PM
eesakiwi NZ$1 has dropped from... 10-03-2014, 01:47 AM
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Mechanic688 http://www.kitco.com/LFgif/pt0... 10-03-2014, 04:25 AM
sledge Ouch! That is one telling... 10-03-2014, 05:46 AM
MattyNoNeck Yeesh...just as I was about... 10-03-2014, 04:46 AM
taterjuice Wondered why I haven't been... 10-03-2014, 05:24 AM
KzScrapper Precious metals are indeed... 10-03-2014, 05:33 AM
MattyNoNeck Oh I’m down with that. ... 10-03-2014, 05:36 AM
phred59 Its all manipulation right... 10-03-2014, 07:30 AM
Focker John just sell them and roll... 10-03-2014, 05:18 PM
SparrowMetals Yes, the market has NOT been... 10-05-2014, 04:58 PM
JohnC4X4 I don't purchase them, so all... 10-05-2014, 05:07 PM
SparrowMetals If you can wait, that's a... 10-05-2014, 05:16 PM
nebrs13 93-97% of catalyst goes back... 10-10-2014, 10:48 PM
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    Yes, the market has NOT been kind to us in the last month. I haven't had to drop my prices too severely yet, but converters are down a bit and headed lower if the market drops much more. A few bucks a cat isn't a real big deal if you have 10 or 20 that you cut from junkers. It's downright scary if you're sitting on a few hundred converters that you bought at higher price levels, especially when you're only working on 6 to 10%.

    I still don't trust that the PGM markets are done falling (but I'd be happy to be wrong). Platinum is down another $21.00/oz as I type this, Palladium down $12. Pd held up better than Pt there for a while, but it, too has been hammered in the last few weeks. Many common high-grade converters today are actually palladium-based..GM Flows and high-grade Hyundais to name a few.

    I'm filling my batches, locking in my pricing and unloading quickly, no time to wait around with $40+ daily drops in Platinum! This kind of thing usually occurs once or twice in a decade. It's scary, we just have to know that it eventually will happen and be ready to deal with it. If it gets really bad and I break even (or even lose a few hundred) on a batch, I look at it this way- I made money on my last 50 batches, and I will almost certainly make a profit on each of the next 50. If I should lose a bit on a batch or two, it's a small price to pay for all the times I have made and will make money. In a way, it's a good thing... Market scares like this will quickly shake out the weak players.

    Sparrow Metals- Automotive core and converter buyer in Central PA since 2012.

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