Scrapping cars with Canadian titles

I have no avenues to make a phone call to clarify this at the moment, since it's the weekend, but am in kind of a hurry to find out.

Received a phone call from a couple who came down from Canada to visit, long story short they lost their transmission while they're down here and want us to junk the car. It's a 2001 so a title is required.

however, the title is canadian, that's where they're from and that's where the car is from.



Are we going to have problems bringing this thing to a junkyard with the Canadian title or is that fine? If not, what process do you need to go through in this situation to get an appropriate us title or similar paperwork giving us the OK to junk it?

Originally Posted by admin

I have no avenues to make a phone call to clarify this at the moment, since it's the weekend, but am in kind of a hurry to find out.

Received a phone call from a couple who came down from Canada to visit, long story short they lost their transmission while they're down here and want us to junk the car. It's a 2001 so a title is required.

however, the title is canadian, that's where they're from and that's where the car is from.

Are we going to have problems bringing this thing to a junkyard with the Canadian title or is that fine? If not, what process do you need to go through in this situation to get an appropriate us title or similar paperwork giving us the OK to junk it?

Only way to know is contact your yard.

I do know here, that you either need title or a bill of sale form in order to junk any automobile that was or is registered with DMV at one point or another.

Originally Posted by GeorgeB

Only way to know is contact your yard.

I do know here, that you either need title or a bill of sale form in order to junk any automobile that was or is registered with DMV at one point or another.

I know I need the title, the client is right down the road and they have it. Problem is, the title is canadian.

The other problem is, the car needs to be picked up by the end of the day tomorrow because they're leaving again for canada at the end of the day. Which means I can't call the local junk yard (which pays more than the scrap yard), and ask them if a Canadian title is good enough.

Originally Posted by IdahoScrapper

Found this, dunno how accurate it is.


Import a vehicle from Canada into the US:



Ok, here's what NEEDS to be done. If you pay someone to bring it across, it is commercial. That means he will need to see a US Customs Broker, which costs money. How much I am not sure. If you can, bring it across yourself. Personal importations are a heck of alot less paperwork and money to dish out. The vehicle needs to meet US EPA and US DOT requirements at time of import, you also need proof of ownership (bill of sale and Canadian title), fair market value (Official Kelley Blue Book New Car and Used Car Prices and Values).

When re-entering the US, stop at the inspection booth and declare you need to import the car. They will send you into the office with your paperwork. Here's the tricky part. In order for the vehicle to meet US EPA and US DOT standards, it either needs to be labeled, or a letter of conformity from the manufacturer. EPA labeling is under the hood and must state meets US standards and DOT is in the driver side door jamb and CANNOT have the Canadian Maple Leaf. For instance, if you are bringing in a Chevy, you need a letter from GM on their letterhead stating if it meets the 2 above standards and the letter must include the VIN#. Dealer can help get the letter, but MUST be from the mfg. Or you can try contacting the mfg. directly through their addresses and phone numbers listed on Home | National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...nada07032.html .EPA is exempt if it's over 21yrs old and DOT exempt if over 25yrs old(or vice versa, don't have the forms in front of me). You can see that EPA and DOT are the tricky part.

Once it is established that the EPA and DOT are met, we will fill out the rest of the paperwork for the import. You will need a CF7501, DOT form, EPA form, and duty MAY apply. The packet of papers you get from Customs needs to go to the DMV to get a title issued. Make sure there is a red stamp on the paperwork. Duty is 3% on the first $1000 and 2.5% on the balance if not made in the US, Canada, or Mexico. If the VIN starts with 1=US, 2=Canada, 3=Mexico, 4 & 5=US (free trade zones), anything other than the 1-5 will have duty to be paid at Customs. The fair market value is what you will be taxed on at the DMV. That's about it. It's always a good idea to call the Customs office you will be entering the US at to see if there are any small differences. The above is for Port Huron, MI. References include CFR 12.73 for EPA and CFR 12.80 for DOT on the cbp website. You may want to verify the VIN and in the driver side door jamb there should be a month and year of manufacture, jot down the MO and YR as that is the number one thing people get sent back outside to get.

If exporting a car to Canada its CFR 192.2 As stupid as it sounds, make sure the vehicle is present for import / export procedures for inspection. Failure to do this may result in penalties. If you are carrying over $10,000 cash you NEED to declare it prior to leaving and entering both countries. It's not illegal to do so, but it must be declared. There is no tax or duty on the money. If it's not declared and either country finds it, it WILL be seized. Other port phone numbers can be found at CBP.gov - home page and just click on the port tab at the top of the page and go from there. It's pretty simple to find the phone number.









Hopefully the above information can help act as a guide for anyone considering doing a cross border vehicle purchase. Procedures often change so please do your own research to make sure the information is current and relevant to your circumstances.
A good start would be to ensure the vehicle you wish to import is approved for import to your country. You may be in for a rude surprise if you skip this step.

Well the car is already in the US, right down the road from us. So it's not an import/export issue at the moment.

Not all Canadians are honest, make sure they sign the car over to you sold as scrap bill of sale then also get the registration just in case someone try's to pull an insurance scam back home.

In Canada it's no big issue to get replacement registration papers for those lost or stolen.

What make and model car is this 2001.

Personally I would call over a cop to have him witness the vehicle being signed over as abandoned by the Canadians, I'm sure the cop would be more than happy to run the Vin number on your invite.

Originally Posted by RSComputer

This is a tough one without being able to get ahold of your yard. To be honest I've never come across a situation like this. Here are a couple of flags that are going off in my head. First can you verify that the title is real? Secondly if you do purchase and your yard wants/needs more documentation will you be stuck with it? If you do get stuck with it will you be cable to tear it down enough to take to the scrap yard and still be profitable? I'm not saying to do or not do. Just be careful and try to look at all the pros and cons. Good luck either way.

I often use the free service from Carfax where you enter the Vin of the vehicle which in turn gives me the engine size and a few other good pieces of info, if you choose to use the paid option I believe you get a whole list of owners right up to the current one. Possibly any lien holders as well.

As far as the Canadian Dept of Motor Vehicles goes you'll not have the report to them, they do not follow any vehicles to end of life.


http://www.carfax.com/cfm/general_ch...?partner=car_q

honestly i would take car whats the worst you have 2001 parts car but see it may have to be dismantled more ..I myself would strip it and cut in half ,i am saying this due to the car comming to the us and not beeing imported ,as there epa laws are diffrent. its import fees they would want 70.00 -300 to import 70 is parts car .The cats are diffrent priced i saw more platium .I research this for hour this is the best anwser i can give you. but if you want better anwser call U.S. Customs & Border ProtectionContact Us (877) 227-5511 Tell them issue maybe Maybe they help you.

I don't need paperwork, so long as the car has a legible VIN. Definitely need to contact them (yard), but I should imagine that if they require a title, it's origin shouldn't matter so long as the VIN on the title matches the VIN on the car. Gaining a local title would vary from state to state. Here in CO, $10 for a Sheriff's Dept. VIN inspection, and 7-10 days for the state to mail out a new CO title.

Edit.....as IdahoScrapper mentioned, for travelers to have title in hand is rare, but it does happen. I have had it happen a couple times, once this year. Travelers plastered a deer pretty hard in an older SUV. I bought the car, not only were they carrying the matching title, but also had both sets of keys with both remotes.