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Do all yards allow this or am I carrying this too far? I often sell loads that might include a clothesline iron post with a huge cement chunk attached or a frozen chunk of dirt clinging to a farm implement or that wood post or two attached to woven wire. Then they allow me to sweep off my trailer and leave another 50 lbs of dirt and sticks. Is it only because I bring them rolls and cookies ?
I can't really say for sure myself but I have heard of yards making an estimated deduction on the final wight do to trash.
This yard has an electronic printout but maybe even THAT could be altered. **(Maybe the cookies aren't necessary)
Maybe your not getting quite what someone with a clean load would get, even a penny or two cheaper would pay for your "trash.
You might ask them if the load was cleaner would the payout go up??
Depends on the yard in my area. Some yards dont even bother to look at your load and the help they have dont care because they just started or are about to quit. The highest paying yard in my area checks loads like a hawk. I brought in desks with some particle board attached and they wanted to deduct my load from $240/ton to $100/ton. Manager told me I would be better off going next door to another yard because he was going to protect his company by not buying loads like that. I took it down the street and they didnt care, but their price was $200/ton.
I've seen some of the 'employee doesn't care' attitude as they let alot of stuff slide but the owner has never complained either. They actually DO pay me the going price and even add another $15 a ton because I'm a regular. I don't want to take advantage of the situation, plus I also give them a few breaks too...i.e. let them mag off some prepared iron without weighing back and settling for unprepared price. Good boys they are !!
Dirt, sticks, water not cool at all. If the yard gets a pole with some concreate and they don't care, they most likely can pass it on as is to the next guy in line... soner or later someone gets it!
I don't talk trash often, but when I do, I go for the jugular.
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I took in a load on Wednesday last week of a fridge and washer. The washer was full of water and frozen solid. The fridge had been left by the squatters that lived in the clean-out I did and it was full of food. I strapped the fridge shut and told them at the yard that it stunk pretty bad. The person running the scale only asked what the load was not what was in it. Came to 660# and got paid 170/T. The guys that helped unload never said a thing about it.
I kinda look at it this way, the yard is paying x amount to get your scrap and they are selling it for amount y. They are making money on the metal you take in. They also get in people that do not sort out their metals and through them all off into shred. I figure that as the yard employees come across these little bits of other metals they throw them aside and get put where they go. So they paid around 7 cents a pound for that and they are selling it for a heck of alot more depending on what it is. So a little trash in a load isn't the end of the world in my opinion. Not saying to 'fluff' your loads with trash but that if you can't get something off of it I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just cleanup what you can.
660 pounds for a fridge and washer seams like a lot! Yea the frozen water in the washer and being in WI may be ok. But the stuff from the fridge, why could you just not dump it with all the other clean out trash?
The stuff in the fridge wasn't exactly in containers. It was spilled everywhere in the fridge and I was not about to bring it home and let if thaw out and have to deal with the smell. There was a few other pieces of metal but not really anything that would take up a-lot of weight. However, if the yard would have told me they wouldn't have accepted it, I would have taken the trash out of it. I know a guy in town here that will take anything that has even a little piece of metal on it in. I seen him throw 2x4's with a few screws and a metal strap on one end into his load for the yard. He will take fridges and smash tv tubes into the fridge and screw it shut. This same guy has been busted here for dumpster diving and takes scrap in under his wife's name since they aren't supposed to take it from him.
Abshere...which yard? you can pm if you want. the two yards I use regularly watch everything really close.
Just reread that.....Don't get me wrong, I have taken in over 10K in tin this year alone. Every load has been clean of trash but that one. I take in quite a bit of small loads as I don't have storage for much. My yard is 5 miles round trip and they see me at least once a week. I just wanted to make sure that everyone understood that I don't add weight to loads or anything. I will pull the plastic off of computer cases, take screws out of bits of plastic, cut electrical tape off of wires that are taped together. I am proud of the fact that my yard doesn't question what I bring it.
I never open a fridge from a clean out that's going to the scrap yard. Do one, and you'll know why.
I think alot of us have yards we go to based on material we have. some yards are more willing to take desk with wooden tops, printers, office chairs with plastic backs, and so forth. they may pay a little less but they may make less with more non metal in the mix. some yards this is considered acceptable. One of the owners will even help unload. every yard has their own standards and as long as you dont feel like your "sneaking" it in you should be alright. I even have had cubicle dividers, called and asked and he says just dont bring them all at once.
I have brought clean loads in consistently and noticed after 2 years that the owner comes over more to shoot the breeze than to look at my load. Yes i get a quick scan but he knows i will ask questions about any questionable material. the one time i forgot to drain a gas tank i told him i would bring it back but was told to throw it way up on the pile. I think if your a good customer some things can slide but if you push the limit your gonna be under their watchful eyes and eventually if you go to far be the guy who is banned. And that's no fun at all
The place I feel I am pushing the limit is tossing keyboards in with my shred. The yard doesn't seem to mind and I take them in when I am scrapping computers.
big difference between a few and say 50 at once
Generally one per computer.
You make me sad knowing you don't break down your keyboards if you get a good number of them.
The mylar an wire adds up fast with those things. Now stop making me sad, an break down your key boards Burly. ;)
Sirscrapalot - Just say no to keyboards in shred.
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.46073...=126&h=127&p=0Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirscrapalot
Lets say a keyboard weighs three pounds, just for the sake of argument, with the wire clipped. If I don't put it in shred I lose about 30 cents. My cost of labor is zero throwing it in shred. How much is the Mylar worth?
Pushing the limit... again depends on the yard. One of my regular yards are pretty strick on things like a lot of wood, but that would be like fence posts or something. As far as a wood top on a desk they would never say anything about. But at the same time I get away with murder since I have been doing business there for 10 plus years. I always sweep out my truck, carry a broom behind the seat. They give me 10-15 dollars more on the ton of shread. And 20 more on cars, so I pack every car I get completly full. They only give one set price and don't buy non ferrous. I don't have a trailor and have to pull them in, but I only live less than two miles frolm the yard. U should see someone in the driver seat stering a car being pulled by me. Metal sticking out of every window etc.
On the other hand another local yard where I sell my short steel cast. Motor blocks all prepared steel and all non ferrous metals will let me get by with murder on tin/shread when I take it to them. Depends on what part of the county I am in. I once took a 25 foot long 8 foot tall steel colvert in that the highway dept gave me. They had run over it with a track hoe and getting ready to burry it. They were putting a new road in. I figured they would dock me cause of about 500 lbs of dirt in it. They unloaded it with their loader/crain and put it straight into the bailer. The operator(a pretty good guy I got to know) told me that they will sell dirt and all to their buyer so it don't matter. Usually anything I have that would not pass they put straight into the bailer or crusher. Maybe its because I send them christmas cards every year??? Who knows.
This may help a little. http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/elect...keyboards.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by BurlyGuys
I take the time to make sure I give the yard I go to a good clean load no matter what I take them. When I first started going there I was checked every time. Now that I have been going there and repeatedly having very clean loads they no longer check me or give me deductions due to (cement, wood, dirt, ect.) except for tires on vehicles and get a good price that is never questioned.